Wednesday, May 13, 2015

CC's Genealogy Today

Ok.  I got my Mom's paternal side updated in my map.  Now I need to work on her maternal side.  I still need to go through their documents though.  Going to start with my Grandma Flossie Jane Darling.


Name:
Flossie J Dorling
Age:
9/12
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1939
Gender:
Female
Race:
White
Birthplace:
Indiana
Marital Status:
Single
Relation to Head of House:
Granddaughter
Home in 1940:
Kokomo, Howard, Indiana
Map of Home in 1940:
Street:
E Wheeler
House Number:
421
Sheet Number:
6A
Attended School or College:
No
Neighbors:
Household Members:



Name:
Flossie J Roach
Gender:
Female
Residence Year:
1957
Street address:
323f Webster
Residence Place:
Kokomo, Indiana, USA
Spouse:
Publication Title:
Kokomo, Indiana, City Directory, 1957


Name:
Flossie J Roach
Gender:
Female
Residence Year:
1958
Street address:
727 S Waugh
Residence Place:
Kokomo, Indiana, USA
Spouse:
Publication Title:
Kokomo, Indiana, City Directory, 1958


Name:
Flossie J Roach
Gender:
Female
Residence Year:
1959
Street address:
727 S Waugh
Residence Place:
Kokomo, Indiana, USA
Spouse:
Publication Title:
Kokomo, Indiana, City Directory, 1959


Name:
Flossie J Greathouse
Birth Date:
5 Jul 1939
Phone Number:
434-3004
Address:
214 S 8th St # 7, Las Vegas, NV, 89101-5506 (1992)
[319 N 8th St, Las Vegas, NV, 89101-3094 (1996)] 
[1929 Statz St # 7, North Las Vegas, NV, 89030-7351] 
[4507 Rosedale Ave, Las Vegas, NV, 89121-2738] 


Name:
Flossie J. Greathouse
SSN:
313-40-7172
Last Residence:
89060 Tonopah, Nye, Nevada, USA
BORN:
5 Jul 1939
Died:
4 May 2004
State (Year) SSN issued:
Indiana (1956)


Name:
Flossie J Greathouse
Birth Date:
5 Jul 1939
Birth Place:
Indiana
Death Date:
4 May 2004
Death Place:
Las Vegas, Clark, Nevada, USA


Name:
Flossie Greathouse
Birth Date:
5 Jul 1939
Address:
1924 Fremont St Apt 8, Las Vegas, NV, 89101-5108
Name:
Flossie Greathouse
Birth Date:
5 Jul 1939
Address:
2030 Fremont St, Las Vegas, NV, 89101-5123


Name of Deceased:
Flossie J. Greathouse
Age at Death:
64
Death Date:
4 May 2004
Obituary Date:
8 May 2004
Newspaper Title:
Las Vegas Review-Journal
Newspaper Location:
Las Vegas, NV, US
Birth Date:
abt 1940
Locations Mentioned in Obituary:
Las Vegas, Las Vegas
Other Persons Mentioned in Obituary:
Allen
Sherry Ball
Becky Davis
Terry
David
Dale Roach
Sue Caine


Name:
Flossie J Greathouse
Age at Death:
64
Birth Date:
Abt 1940
Death Date:
abt 2004
Death Place:
Las Vegas NV
Publication or Record Date:
7 May 2004
Publication or Record Place:
United States
URL:


I guess I'm going to have to do a newspaper search for her full obituary.

That's all on Ancestry.  I'm going to see what I can find on Family Search.
Name:
Flossie J Greathouse
Event Type:
Obituary
Event Date:
06 May 2004
Event Place:
Nevada, United States
Gender:
Female
Age:
64
Relationship to Deceased:
Deceased
Birth Date:
05 Jul 1939
Birthplace:
, , Indiana
Death Date:
06 May 2004
Death Place:
Las Vegas, ,
Newspaper:
Las Vegas Sun
Spouse and Children


Allen Roach
Son
Male
Parents and Siblings


Brother
Male
Brother
Male
Brother
Male
Sister
Female
Sister
Female
Sister
Female
Brother
Male
Brother
Male
Brother
Male
Sister
Female
Others on Record


Domestic Partner
Male

"United States, GenealogyBank Obituaries, 1980-2014," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVPT-J2LN : accessed 12 May 2015), Allen Roach in entry for Flossie J Greathouse, Nevada, United States, 06 May 2004; from "Recent Newspaper Obituaries (1977 - Today)," database, GenealogyBank.com (http://www.genealogybank.com : 2014); citing Las Vegas Sun, born-digital text.


I looked in Newspaper archive and all I could find was the announcement of the grave side service we had.  I couldn't find the actual obituary though.  I see it's on GenealogyBank.com…however I don't have a membership there and can't afford to get one. In this index they have it all mixed up…Terry through Sherry are her children.

I started only with birth and death info my Aunt gave me.  The only documents produced by hints were the 1940 Census and 1 City Directory for Kokomo.  The rest I found through searches.


Now I am going to post my pictures I have for her to Facebook, ask any family members if they have any pictures they would like to contribute to her page/post, and if they have any stories they would like to share.  I would love to incorporate these things before I make her dedicated page.

Tuesday, May 12, 2015

CC's Genealogy Today

Today I am still searching for information that might lead me to Lydia F.'s maiden name.  I am going to look at the marriage records I have narrowed it down to, and search for their other records.  I am hoping to find one couple that matches up with the 1880 census I have, nicely.  I am going to start with Family Search this time, because I have had better luck with their search results.

First…based off of the 1880 Census:  Thomas Williams was born about 1849 in Maryland and lived in Baltimore, Lydia F was born about 1851 in Maryland and lived in Baltimore.

Let's start with:
Name:
Thomas E William
Spouse:
Marriage Date:
3 Aug 1867
Marriage Place:
Washington, Maryland, United States
URL:
No census records with Ellie specifically as the spouse. 
Ok. I removed Census specific and put exact on Ellie.  No records.  Taking off the marriage, the only thing that came up was T.C. Williams & Ellie had a son in Texas in 1904.  Don't think they are the same. Removing the exact off of Ellie's name and adding the marriage back in.  Over 12,000 results, looking at the top ones.
  • Possible Military service in 1878 (Marines).
  • Possibly in Baltimore in 1910 as a widow.  No familiar names listed as children but he was living with his daughter Madlana R.  I'm pretty sure my Thomas was in Ohio by this time, that's why I didn't copy it over.
  • Possibly in Baltimore in 1900 widowed living with his daughter Elsie G.
  • There is another Thomas E Williams in the 1900 census living in Atkinson, Worcester, Maryland widowed who has a daughter Susan age 17.  My Ella Susan would have been 28 by this time and she was married living in Ohio, so this one is definitely not it.
  • One in Find a Grave married to Isabella died in Baltimore.
Lots of Thomas E Williams…quite a few in Maryland, some went to Indiana, Missouri, Kentucky, Virginia, New York.  Not seeing any that went to Ohio though…Moving on.

Next up:
Name:
Thomas Williams
Spouse:
Lydia Holland
Marriage Date:
18 May 1882
County:
Prince Georges
State:
MD
Over 10,000 results with just putting their names and marriage date in so going to click exact on Lydia.  No results so taking the marriage year off.  Over 100 results, a lot in the England so restricting it to records in the United States. Now I'm down to 32!  Yea…Lets see what it gives me.
Name:
Thomas E. Williams
Event Date:
10 Nov 1932
Event Place:
Prichard, Mobile Co., Alabama
Gender:
Male
Age (Original):
53y 3m
Birth Year (Estimated):
1879
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
GS Film number: 1908504 , Reference ID: cn 23338 ,
Quite a bit too young to be my Thomas.

  • Mentioned in the death of his daughter Lydia Williams died 1796 and had a spouse Lydia. (too early and in Maine).
  • One had a daughter Louisiana in 1809 in Maine (too early).
  • One had a son named John in 1801 in Maine (too early).
  • Had a son named Levi in 1805 in Maine (too early).
  • Had a son named Thomas in 1799 in Maine (too early).
Name:
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Date:
28 Jul 1925
Event Place:
Perry, Ohio, United States
Age:
60
Birth Year (Estimated):
1865
Father's Name:
Thomas Williams
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Age:
50
Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated):
1875
Spouse's Father's Name:
Spouse's Mother's Name:
GS Film Number: 002109291 , Digital Folder Number: 004733034 , Image Number: 00693 ,
I think this is MY Thomas & Lydia!  I didn't know they had a son!  I only had the 1 census to go off of!  Checking tree to see where at in Ohio the family was.  None listed in Perry county but was listed in many other counties…just the fact that they ended up in Ohio, brings me much closer to where I was…Maybe Thomas K added as the son will give me more census data.

Name:
Event Type:
Birth
Event Date:
06 Mar 1878
Event Place:
Preble, Ohio
Gender:
Male
Father's Name:
Williamson
Mother's Name:
Reference ID: p 143 , GS Film number: 564960 , Digital Folder Number: 004978830 , Image Number: 00204 ,
I don't think this one is them because I have them living in Maryland in 1880.

Many others are duplicates or in locations I wouldn't think they would be in.  I am going with the first Ohio record to try and get more clues.  Hmmm…I don't know.  She would have been about 13 when she conceived him and 14 when she had him.

I'm thinking I'm going to look up records on Lydia Holland next.  I guess she could have lied about her age on census…maybe.


Thank you to Deb on one of my linked in groups for finding the index card for Thomas and Lydia Holland's marriage.  It proves that this is not my Lydia because in census she was reported as white and this marriage record says she was colored.


I really don't know where to go from here!  I think I am going to put her on my brick wall list for now and move on.  So I can get the other names from my son's chart verified.
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Well today I did a generic brick wall list.  Now that I have some more experience I am sure I can get a lot of the names at the top of the list scratched off.  This is just a list of what I need to work on again later.

Rhoda Longmire Sandridge (no parents)
Temperance Vaughan (no mother)
Martha (wife of Younger Douglass)
William "Willis" M Johnson (no parents)
Sarah "Sallie" Johnson (no mother)
Ezekiel Morrison (no parents)
Nancy (wife of Ezekiel Morrison)
Fanny Ann Liles (no parents)
Martha Cotton (no parents)
Nancy Durham (no parents)
Fanny Ann Liles (same as above)
Pleasant P. Davis (no parents)
William Thomas (mother's first name)
Sarah Ann Powell (mother's maiden name)
Thomas Lee Wilson (mother's maiden name)
Mary Ann Stone (Mother's maiden name)
Daniel Johnson (Mother's maiden name)
Thomas Cook (Mother's maiden name)
Lydia F (wife of Thomas Williams maiden name & parents)

Well… I got tired of not finding anything, on Lydia F.  I decided I needed to add her to the above list and move on.  On Mother's day I was trying to think of something to do with my son to get him involved in this a little.  He's 9 so it was a little bit of a challenge to think of something fun and age appropriate for him to help me with, that had to do with genealogy.  I did it though!  I printed a map that had all the states and their counties on it and we started plotting where all of his ancestors were born.  Kind of like a places you've been map but with ancestors…LOL

We got through most of his grandpa on his dad's side ancestors done, before he wanted to go watch cartoons.

 Here is the computer version of that same info.

These are all of his father's ancestors currently verified.

I used the My Maps tool on Google to create this.  It allows me to add as many places as I want and draw lines between them.  The red dots are Moms the blue dots are Dads.  The lines connect each birth place from child to parent.  Where lines are thicker or purple there are multiple people who follow that same line.   I put this all in one layer, because the free version only allows you to have 2 layers.  If you buy the app (I guess...something like that) then you can have as many layers as you want.


Now I am working on my side.  I'm putting it in it's own layer so that I don't get the lines confused...LOL.
I got my Dad's ancestors done!
Here is what the 2 layers look like together now.
Now to work on my Momma's line.

Friday, May 8, 2015

CC's Genealogy Today

Ok.  Today I am going to look into the genealogies for the people in the possible marriage records I found.  Starting with:
Name:
Thomas E William
Spouse:
Marriage Date:
3 Aug 1867
Marriage Place:
Washington, Maryland, United States
URL:
No results on Ancestry with that exact year of marriage and Maryland as place of marriage.
No results on Family Search either.

Next up:
Name:
Thomas Williams
Spouse:
Lydia Holland
Marriage Date:
18 May 1882
County:
Prince Georges
State:
MD

Looks like this might be the one most people accept.
Public Member Tree
8 attached records, 9 sources  
Thomas Oliver Williams
Birth:  1849 - USA
Marriage:  1885 - Prince Georges, MD (Maryland)
Spouse:  Lydia F. 
F: 
John D. Williams

M: 
Catherine

The marriage is off by 3 years though and it gave me many results, so I am going to take it down to an exact year.

Public Member Tree
3 attached records, 3 sources  
 photos
Thomas O Williams
Birth:  Jun 1842
Marriage:  13 May 1882 - Fond du Lac County (Fond du Lac), Wisconsin
Spouse:  Amelia Lydia Fritcher
F: 
(Name Unknown)

M: 
(Name Unknown)
Same month and year, wrong place.  Still this is the first I have seen of this name.  I still have 1000 results so going to minimize it down further by exacting the place.

No exact results…Taking that all back down and clicking exact on Lydia's last name.
Still no exact results on Ancestry but so far considering only the names…this one is the best fit.

Going to double check Family Search now.
No results.  Taking the marriage year off…people may not have found it.  Still 0 results.  It appears this marriage record is basically unclaimed.  Which would be the case in this line of my family… just not enough people searched for all of the details on a lot of people in this line.  Continuing on just to be sure!

Next up:
Name:
Thomas H. Williams
Spouse's Name:
Event Date:
20 Sep 1873
Event Place:
Dorchester, Maryland
Public Member Tree
1 attached record, 1 source  
Thomas Williams
Birth:  Abt. 1846
Death:  Dover, Kent, Delaware, USA
Marriage:  1873
Spouse:  Susan Elizabeth Smithers
F: 
(Name Unknown)

M: 
(Name Unknown)

No children listed in tree though.  No children listed in any of their trees.  Going to Family Search to see if I get any different results.
0 Results.
This one doesn't match up well so it's probably not it anyway.

Next up:
Name:
Thomas Gwillian
Spouse's Name:
Event Date:
25 Oct 1870
Event Place:
English Evangelical Lutheran Church, Baltimore, Baltimore, Maryland
The closest I found was Amelia Adams but they were married in 1831 according to those trees.  Nothing with exact year and place and nothing when I removed their wedding date and made the name Nellie Adams exact.  No kids for Amelia matches closely to Lydia's Ellen Susan or Sarah E.
Switching back to Family Search to see what they have.

Family Search 0 results with exact year and place of marriage so removing that.  Still 0 results.


Ok.  I guess my next step is to do a search of all records for these couples.  Specifically if they have an 1880 census other than the one I already saved.